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	<title>Comments on: Looking for good independent Chinese music? Neocha delivers</title>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.lostlaowai.com/blog/china-stuff/chinese-culture/looking-for-good-independent-chinese-music-neocha-delivers/#comment-14170</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Aug 2009 03:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Ada: No problem.

@Stephen: While I&#039;m very much a creative commons and copyleft supporter ideologically, and I agree that giving away the music may lead to an increased fan-base, it&#039;s doubtful getting known will bring in much money.

The underground (ie. non-radio) music scene in China is building, but it&#039;s far from lucrative. I am willing to bet that only the best indie acts can even scrape by with enough cash for gear and gas.

The industry in China is just crap. There&#039;s little ability for a non-mainstream artist to be grabbed by a progressive label and made into a star like there is outside of China. Things here are just at far too polarized extremes -- the only &quot;thing&quot; that can get big-label representation is an artist that is the &quot;package&quot; -- singer/dancer/actor (and I use ALL those terms in the loosest way possible). Basically, a non-feather-ruffling, looks-good-at-Spring-Festival-Gala, sparkley-haired no-talent asshat.

So, give me the option to buy an indie band&#039;s album for a few bucks on Taobao, or cheaper via MP3 download and I&#039;ll happily do my part to support music I actually enjoy. And if years down the road the industry changes and word-of-mouth rags-to-riches is anything more than the lotto drawing that it is now, I&#039;ll happily support in another way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Ada: No problem.</p>
<p>@Stephen: While I&#8217;m very much a creative commons and copyleft supporter ideologically, and I agree that giving away the music may lead to an increased fan-base, it&#8217;s doubtful getting known will bring in much money.</p>
<p>The underground (ie. non-radio) music scene in China is building, but it&#8217;s far from lucrative. I am willing to bet that only the best indie acts can even scrape by with enough cash for gear and gas.</p>
<p>The industry in China is just crap. There&#8217;s little ability for a non-mainstream artist to be grabbed by a progressive label and made into a star like there is outside of China. Things here are just at far too polarized extremes &#8212; the only &#8220;thing&#8221; that can get big-label representation is an artist that is the &#8220;package&#8221; &#8212; singer/dancer/actor (and I use ALL those terms in the loosest way possible). Basically, a non-feather-ruffling, looks-good-at-Spring-Festival-Gala, sparkley-haired no-talent asshat.</p>
<p>So, give me the option to buy an indie band&#8217;s album for a few bucks on Taobao, or cheaper via MP3 download and I&#8217;ll happily do my part to support music I actually enjoy. And if years down the road the industry changes and word-of-mouth rags-to-riches is anything more than the lotto drawing that it is now, I&#8217;ll happily support in another way.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Aug 2009 14:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think allowing downloading of the music could only support these artists. I mean personally I&#039;m not gonna go out and try to buy an album of someone whos songs I like. But I would share a downloaded album with friends. Downloading can only help spread the fame of the artists which is more valuable than the 30 rmb they could get from me for an album. Once they get known the money will come.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think allowing downloading of the music could only support these artists. I mean personally I&#8217;m not gonna go out and try to buy an album of someone whos songs I like. But I would share a downloaded album with friends. Downloading can only help spread the fame of the artists which is more valuable than the 30 rmb they could get from me for an album. Once they get known the money will come.</p>
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		<title>By: Ada</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 21:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks a lot Ryan! 
I was looking for this kind of music for 3 years now. I&#039;m so happy, at last I will listen to some good chinese music (really, how many times can a person listen to 甜蜜蜜　and 绿岛小夜曲　;) ) 
Thanks again, 
Ada.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks a lot Ryan!<br />
I was looking for this kind of music for 3 years now. I&#8217;m so happy, at last I will listen to some good chinese music (really, how many times can a person listen to 甜蜜蜜　and 绿岛小夜曲　;) )<br />
Thanks again,<br />
Ada.</p>
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		<title>By: The next NEXT player from Neocha &#124; Lost Laowai China Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.lostlaowai.com/blog/china-stuff/chinese-culture/looking-for-good-independent-chinese-music-neocha-delivers/#comment-13112</link>
		<dc:creator>The next NEXT player from Neocha &#124; Lost Laowai China Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 12:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of Chinese indie music, has just released the newest version of their NEXT player. We wrote about the first version NEXT player nearly a year ago, and have been using it rather faithfully since. Despite its awesomeness, every [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of Chinese indie music, has just released the newest version of their NEXT player. We wrote about the first version NEXT player nearly a year ago, and have been using it rather faithfully since. Despite its awesomeness, every [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ladies of Neocha - Tomorrow’s Afternoon Tea &#124; A China Blog on Suzhou Expat Life &#124; The Humanaught</title>
		<link>http://www.lostlaowai.com/blog/china-stuff/chinese-culture/looking-for-good-independent-chinese-music-neocha-delivers/#comment-11917</link>
		<dc:creator>Ladies of Neocha - Tomorrow’s Afternoon Tea &#124; A China Blog on Suzhou Expat Life &#124; The Humanaught</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 08:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] may remember a post a while back where we interviewed Neocho CEO Sean Leow, and talked about their awesome NEXT player, which streams indie Chinese music for [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ladies of Neocha - Tomorrow&#8217;s Afternoon Tea &#124; Lost Laowai China Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.lostlaowai.com/blog/china-stuff/chinese-culture/looking-for-good-independent-chinese-music-neocha-delivers/#comment-11543</link>
		<dc:creator>Ladies of Neocha - Tomorrow&#8217;s Afternoon Tea &#124; Lost Laowai China Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 02:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] may remember a post a while back where we interviewed Neocho CEO Sean Leow, and talked about their awesome NEXT player, which streams indie Chinese music for [...]</description>
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		<title>By: When did China get so damn cool? &#124; Lost Laowai China Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.lostlaowai.com/blog/china-stuff/chinese-culture/looking-for-good-independent-chinese-music-neocha-delivers/#comment-11043</link>
		<dc:creator>When did China get so damn cool? &#124; Lost Laowai China Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 03:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I wrote about a while back, Chinese creativity is in bloom, and as this post from ChinaSMACK visually illustrates - so is breaking from [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I wrote about a while back, Chinese creativity is in bloom, and as this post from ChinaSMACK visually illustrates &#8211; so is breaking from [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Check out Neocha.com for Chinese indie music &#124; Due-East.org</title>
		<link>http://www.lostlaowai.com/blog/china-stuff/chinese-culture/looking-for-good-independent-chinese-music-neocha-delivers/#comment-10540</link>
		<dc:creator>Check out Neocha.com for Chinese indie music &#124; Due-East.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 03:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] out InLove, do it. Yes, Lu, I&#8217;m always advertising your music!). I recently came across a post at Lost Laowai reviewing a great site called Neocha (aka &#8220;new tea&#8221;). I won&#8217;t go into what the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] out InLove, do it. Yes, Lu, I&#8217;m always advertising your music!). I recently came across a post at Lost Laowai reviewing a great site called Neocha (aka &#8220;new tea&#8221;). I won&#8217;t go into what the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
		<link>http://www.lostlaowai.com/blog/china-stuff/chinese-culture/looking-for-good-independent-chinese-music-neocha-delivers/#comment-10467</link>
		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 08:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been searching for some good music myself for the the past 4 years, and now I stumble on this article. Great post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been searching for some good music myself for the the past 4 years, and now I stumble on this article. Great post!</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Schiavenza - Lost Laowai Profiles NeoCha</title>
		<link>http://www.lostlaowai.com/blog/china-stuff/chinese-culture/looking-for-good-independent-chinese-music-neocha-delivers/#comment-10426</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Schiavenza - Lost Laowai Profiles NeoCha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 03:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] your browsers to Ryan&#8217;s interview with NeoCha CEO Sean Leow over at Lost Laowai. NeoCha is a site that serves as a platform for [...]</description>
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