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	<title>Comments on: Shanghai is sinkin&#8217; man, and I don&#8217;t wanna swim</title>
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		<title>By: Best of the China Blogs: January 20 &#124;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Best of the China Blogs: January 20 &#124;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 09:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] means &#8220;above sea.&#8221; But the weight of all that steel and concrete may someday make that name inaccurate. [Lost [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] means &#8220;above sea.&#8221; But the weight of all that steel and concrete may someday make that name inaccurate. [Lost [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie</title>
		<link>http://www.lostlaowai.com/blog/china-stuff/china-politics-news/shanghai-is-sinkin-man-and-i-dont-wanna-swim/#comment-12258</link>
		<dc:creator>Charlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2009 03:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is another reason Harbin is great, by the way. Way too cold for worms underground, and our only river is filled with deadly toxins!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is another reason Harbin is great, by the way. Way too cold for worms underground, and our only river is filled with deadly toxins!</p>
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		<title>By: Kellen</title>
		<link>http://www.lostlaowai.com/blog/china-stuff/china-politics-news/shanghai-is-sinkin-man-and-i-dont-wanna-swim/#comment-12255</link>
		<dc:creator>Kellen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 14:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so you&#039;re saying i shouldn&#039;t go back to shanghai but rather back to nanjing. though as i recall xuanwu lake in the middle of the city was named for the sighting of a dragon ages ago, which is basically the same thing as giant worm, so, crap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so you&#8217;re saying i shouldn&#8217;t go back to shanghai but rather back to nanjing. though as i recall xuanwu lake in the middle of the city was named for the sighting of a dragon ages ago, which is basically the same thing as giant worm, so, crap.</p>
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		<title>By: chriswaugh_bj</title>
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		<dc:creator>chriswaugh_bj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 13:26:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>None of this is in any way news, sorry. It&#039;s been reported for years now. 

#1: Yes, Shanghai has been pumping ground water for a long, long time. Well, would you put the Suzhou Creek into pipes? Exactly.

#2: Shanghai&#039;s subsidence due to that extraction of groundwater has been known for a very long time.

#3: About 20 years ago, if I remember rightly, quite possibly much earlier, Shanghai started pumping water back into the aquifer to check the subsidence caused by over-extraction of the aquifer.

#4: I first heard about the sheer weight of buildings compressing Shanghai&#039;s land, therefore sinking it, nearly 5 years ago.

#5: Shanghai&#039;s a goner. Combination of global warming, building a city where no sane person would build a sheep pen (Helllo?!?!?!? Coastal marsh!- same applies to Tianjin, Venice and New Orleans), and subsidence caused first by over-exploiting groundwater then by building buildings that should never have been built on such land- won&#039;t be long before tourist boats are leaving Nanjing (and Beijing and whereever&#039;s closest and safest to New Orleans and Venice and many other cities) to take cruises over the sunken ruins of &quot;old Shanghai&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>None of this is in any way news, sorry. It&#8217;s been reported for years now. </p>
<p>#1: Yes, Shanghai has been pumping ground water for a long, long time. Well, would you put the Suzhou Creek into pipes? Exactly.</p>
<p>#2: Shanghai&#8217;s subsidence due to that extraction of groundwater has been known for a very long time.</p>
<p>#3: About 20 years ago, if I remember rightly, quite possibly much earlier, Shanghai started pumping water back into the aquifer to check the subsidence caused by over-extraction of the aquifer.</p>
<p>#4: I first heard about the sheer weight of buildings compressing Shanghai&#8217;s land, therefore sinking it, nearly 5 years ago.</p>
<p>#5: Shanghai&#8217;s a goner. Combination of global warming, building a city where no sane person would build a sheep pen (Helllo?!?!?!? Coastal marsh!- same applies to Tianjin, Venice and New Orleans), and subsidence caused first by over-exploiting groundwater then by building buildings that should never have been built on such land- won&#8217;t be long before tourist boats are leaving Nanjing (and Beijing and whereever&#8217;s closest and safest to New Orleans and Venice and many other cities) to take cruises over the sunken ruins of &#8220;old Shanghai&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 04:47:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe there was a large drop in the 60s (11 cm all at once) and that was caused by pumping out the ground water. A lot of ground water is still removed, but I believe the city planners have some sort of system in place to keep this balanced - or at least they&#039;re trying to.

Which is all, of course, to say that it&#039;s a massive gov&#039;t cover-up for the giant worm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe there was a large drop in the 60s (11 cm all at once) and that was caused by pumping out the ground water. A lot of ground water is still removed, but I believe the city planners have some sort of system in place to keep this balanced &#8211; or at least they&#8217;re trying to.</p>
<p>Which is all, of course, to say that it&#8217;s a massive gov&#8217;t cover-up for the giant worm.</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 14:40:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Nedzer:

Have you ever played Gears of War 2? A city also sometimes sinks when the earth under it is being eaten by (spoiler alert!) a GIANT WORM.

Ryan: is there a GIANT WORM under Shanghai?</description>
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<p>Have you ever played Gears of War 2? A city also sometimes sinks when the earth under it is being eaten by (spoiler alert!) a GIANT WORM.</p>
<p>Ryan: is there a GIANT WORM under Shanghai?</p>
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		<title>By: Nedzer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nedzer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 13:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A city sinks when you pump/drain out the water underneath. Have they been pumping out water under Shanghai? 

When they discovered New Orelans was sinking in the 60&#039;s they began to pump out the water with the misguided belief that this would stop the sinking. It had the effect of speeding it up.
Think of a sponge when it&#039;s wet. (It&#039;s bigger) When you suck out the water it shrinks. 
Sounds like this happened in Shanghai</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A city sinks when you pump/drain out the water underneath. Have they been pumping out water under Shanghai? </p>
<p>When they discovered New Orelans was sinking in the 60&#8242;s they began to pump out the water with the misguided belief that this would stop the sinking. It had the effect of speeding it up.<br />
Think of a sponge when it&#8217;s wet. (It&#8217;s bigger) When you suck out the water it shrinks.<br />
Sounds like this happened in Shanghai</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charlie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 12:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>See, this is why I live in Harbin. Way too cold to sink.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>See, this is why I live in Harbin. Way too cold to sink.</p>
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