Comments on: Google threatens to pull plug on Google.cn http://www.lostlaowai.com/blog/china-stuff/china-tech/google-threatens-to-pull-plug-on-google-cn/ No-nonsense China Expat & Travel Community Thu, 09 Feb 2012 03:53:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Zen Master Meta http://www.lostlaowai.com/blog/china-stuff/china-tech/google-threatens-to-pull-plug-on-google-cn/#comment-15483 Zen Master Meta Tue, 09 Feb 2010 20:39:04 +0000 http://www.lostlaowai.com/blog/?p=2257#comment-15483 This is a silly argument of the ego. 18% of a market share of over 300 million has a small civilization of over 50 MILLION people. Looking at "the most" or the biggest of a certain "type" of company is not just over simplifying the matter but yielding to whatever authority of the herds you might subconsciously wish to guide you. I can only hope that with ever more increasing access to information and psiritual knowldge we'll rid our selves of this human tendecny to sensationalize the media and evolve one hate group to the next, as a means to create a collective unity. A National furrier will collect he slaves into his debt pyramid and shape their minds as to find Masters anywhere they go. The USA based censorshp, fradulent banking and fascist 911 laws and civilian espionage are no better. Not to mentioned their endless war of terror on everybody with some oil. I just hope this singularity will be happy :) I'm writing this high, so u may simply negate me on that. Peace and Namaste :) This is a silly argument of the ego. 18% of a market share of over 300 million has a small civilization of over 50 MILLION people. Looking at “the most” or the biggest of a certain “type” of company is not just over simplifying the matter but yielding to whatever authority of the herds you might subconsciously wish to guide you.

I can only hope that with ever more increasing access to information and psiritual knowldge we’ll rid our selves of this human tendecny to sensationalize the media and evolve one hate group to the next, as a means to create a collective unity. A National furrier will collect he slaves into his debt pyramid and shape their minds as to find Masters anywhere they go.

The USA based censorshp, fradulent banking and fascist 911 laws and civilian espionage are no better. Not to mentioned their endless war of terror on everybody with some oil.
I just hope this singularity will be happy :)

I’m writing this high, so u may simply negate me on that.

Peace and Namaste :)

]]> By: Ryan http://www.lostlaowai.com/blog/china-stuff/china-tech/google-threatens-to-pull-plug-on-google-cn/#comment-15318 Ryan Tue, 26 Jan 2010 01:52:56 +0000 http://www.lostlaowai.com/blog/?p=2257#comment-15318 @yc: By your logic, wouldn't lack of market domination therefor <strong>not</strong> be a reason to pull out if Wal-Mart and McDonalds are still expanding and ever-pushing in China (despite not being the leader)? I agree that the HR stuff is mostly just PR stuff. But careful that you don't buy in to the propaganda machine on the other side of the fence. Chinese media (and its puppetmasters) is working hard at putting out the opinion that you yourself are spreading -- that Google is some sort of anti-Chinese dickhead of a company for abandoning and insulting China. That's laughable. Whatever the reason for Google's pulling out, ethical or financial, I'm sure it had nothing to do with its opinion of the Chinese people. As for a sore loser, even conservative estimates of them having 15% of the search market in China would still be 60,000,000 users -- that's twice the population of my home country. @yc: By your logic, wouldn’t lack of market domination therefor not be a reason to pull out if Wal-Mart and McDonalds are still expanding and ever-pushing in China (despite not being the leader)?

I agree that the HR stuff is mostly just PR stuff. But careful that you don’t buy in to the propaganda machine on the other side of the fence. Chinese media (and its puppetmasters) is working hard at putting out the opinion that you yourself are spreading — that Google is some sort of anti-Chinese dickhead of a company for abandoning and insulting China.

That’s laughable. Whatever the reason for Google’s pulling out, ethical or financial, I’m sure it had nothing to do with its opinion of the Chinese people.

As for a sore loser, even conservative estimates of them having 15% of the search market in China would still be 60,000,000 users — that’s twice the population of my home country.

]]> By: yc http://www.lostlaowai.com/blog/china-stuff/china-tech/google-threatens-to-pull-plug-on-google-cn/#comment-15314 yc Mon, 25 Jan 2010 20:12:43 +0000 http://www.lostlaowai.com/blog/?p=2257#comment-15314 Threaens to pull out of China? Are you kidding me? It's a buyers market in China and Google is losing, so who's threatening who here? It is incredible so many in the US actually believed this human rights crap as the reason for the Google stunt. Wal-Mart is far from No1 in China, neither is MacDonald. But I haven't heard their "threat" to pull out. Perhaps these little geeks at Google are too full of themselves this time around? Don't be like eBay, a sore loser. Threaens to pull out of China? Are you kidding me? It’s a buyers market in China and Google is losing, so who’s threatening who here? It is incredible so many in the US actually believed this human rights crap as the reason for the Google stunt. Wal-Mart is far from No1 in China, neither is MacDonald. But I haven’t heard their “threat” to pull out. Perhaps these little geeks at Google are too full of themselves this time around? Don’t be like eBay, a sore loser.

]]> By: Chris http://www.lostlaowai.com/blog/china-stuff/china-tech/google-threatens-to-pull-plug-on-google-cn/#comment-15242 Chris Mon, 18 Jan 2010 04:56:25 +0000 http://www.lostlaowai.com/blog/?p=2257#comment-15242 I agree with Matt M ... there must be more to this story. Maybe I'm thinking too much like a conspiracy theorist but he fact that the US government has had a play in this seems significant. I agree with Matt M … there must be more to this story.

Maybe I’m thinking too much like a conspiracy theorist but he fact that the US government has had a play in this seems significant.

]]> By: Suffer the Little Children | Lost Laowai China Blog http://www.lostlaowai.com/blog/china-stuff/china-tech/google-threatens-to-pull-plug-on-google-cn/#comment-15232 Suffer the Little Children | Lost Laowai China Blog Sat, 16 Jan 2010 18:57:21 +0000 http://www.lostlaowai.com/blog/?p=2257#comment-15232 [...] Google’s flaccid penetration into the Chinese market, Clinton — the warrior-princess — waving around her Vorpal [...] [...] Google’s flaccid penetration into the Chinese market, Clinton — the warrior-princess — waving around her Vorpal [...]

]]> By: Matt M http://www.lostlaowai.com/blog/china-stuff/china-tech/google-threatens-to-pull-plug-on-google-cn/#comment-15228 Matt M Fri, 15 Jan 2010 21:55:08 +0000 http://www.lostlaowai.com/blog/?p=2257#comment-15228 The force is strong here. The situation here is not what it seems. There is something else behind all this. The company is not doing well in China and is using human rights as an excuse to pull out of China and score points with the EU, which wants to severely tax Google to subsidize industries hurt by free content (i.e., the publishing and recording industries). Google has a strong track record in helping China track down dissidents, so its sudden “strong stand” in China is not credible – it’s a PR stunt. There’s a lot more to this story than is being reported. The force is strong here.

The situation here is not what it seems. There is something else behind all this. The company is not doing well in China and is using human rights as an excuse to pull out of China and score points with the EU, which wants to severely tax Google to subsidize industries hurt by free content (i.e., the publishing and recording industries). Google has a strong track record in helping China track down dissidents, so its sudden “strong stand” in China is not credible – it’s a PR stunt. There’s a lot more to this story than is being reported.

]]> By: vivianalive http://www.lostlaowai.com/blog/china-stuff/china-tech/google-threatens-to-pull-plug-on-google-cn/#comment-15209 vivianalive Thu, 14 Jan 2010 14:44:50 +0000 http://www.lostlaowai.com/blog/?p=2257#comment-15209 Grave as the issue itself has ever appeared to be. How could I imagine days without goole RSS reader..... News, News????!!! too much dust fullfilling those soooooo-called Door Website.... Grave as the issue itself has ever appeared to be.
How could I imagine days without goole RSS reader…..
News, News????!!! too much dust fullfilling those soooooo-called Door Website….

]]> By: John http://www.lostlaowai.com/blog/china-stuff/china-tech/google-threatens-to-pull-plug-on-google-cn/#comment-15202 John Thu, 14 Jan 2010 04:26:21 +0000 http://www.lostlaowai.com/blog/?p=2257#comment-15202 google is the lastest in long line of international internet brands that are unable to crack the chinese market due to a lack of being able to localize and chinese government protectionism. while regrettable to see them go, it is another example of how the china market while as we are always told is "different" than other markets, and requires a different approach, is also an isolated one. google is the lastest in long line of international internet brands that are unable to crack the chinese market due to a lack of being able to localize and chinese government protectionism.

while regrettable to see them go, it is another example of how the china market while as we are always told is “different” than other markets, and requires a different approach, is also an isolated one.

]]> By: Steven http://www.lostlaowai.com/blog/china-stuff/china-tech/google-threatens-to-pull-plug-on-google-cn/#comment-15195 Steven Wed, 13 Jan 2010 20:10:26 +0000 http://www.lostlaowai.com/blog/?p=2257#comment-15195 @Ryan yes, despite a lot of concessions, Google has been whipped hard in China in the past four years. Right now, several of their top web apps are blocked, causing a huge amount of lost revenue, and giving rivals an unfair advantage. That leads to the prospect (hope, even) that the GFW might become a trade barrier issie to be investigated by the WTO. @Matty K - According to the NYT, they "estimate" an annual revenue of USD 300 mil. for Google China. How much more would that be if YouTube were not blocked, eh? @Ryan yes, despite a lot of concessions, Google has been whipped hard in China in the past four years. Right now, several of their top web apps are blocked, causing a huge amount of lost revenue, and giving rivals an unfair advantage. That leads to the prospect (hope, even) that the GFW might become a trade barrier issie to be investigated by the WTO.

@Matty K – According to the NYT, they “estimate” an annual revenue of USD 300 mil. for Google China. How much more would that be if YouTube were not blocked, eh?

]]> By: Matty K http://www.lostlaowai.com/blog/china-stuff/china-tech/google-threatens-to-pull-plug-on-google-cn/#comment-15193 Matty K Wed, 13 Jan 2010 19:49:27 +0000 http://www.lostlaowai.com/blog/?p=2257#comment-15193 Last I heard there were 300 million people using the net in China - surely 18% of that can still pull in a nice chunk of change? Last I heard there were 300 million people using the net in China – surely 18% of that can still pull in a nice chunk of change?

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