Of course, in modern urban families, this is rather loose. However, for the masses of very traditional rural population, I would suspect this is still very much so.

The “final solution” reference was most definitely intentional. What I’m trying to illustrate is that if we start letting any group of people decide for us what we are allowed to do and not to do to ourselves, we restrict one of the most basic human freedoms. In giving someone such power, for the good of the people/country/race/planet, we most definitely push ourselves closer to a brave new world.

PS: Where’d the puppy mill thing come from? Just general (good) advice?

Also – Puppy mills are awful and should be shut down! All of them! Nobody should buy puppies from puppy mills! If you think you may be adopting a puppy from a puppy mill, don’t. That’ll teach the puppy mills to stop…er…milling puppies. In fact, to make sure your puppy doesn’t come from a puppy mill, you should only buy a puppy from an AKC-registered, licensed breeder of puppies.

Remember, kids: NO puppy from a puppy mill can expect to live a happy life – no matter how much you love it. They should never have been brought into this world, and they should be dispatched from it as quickly as possible.

Also – the “final solution” is taken. Try, “what’s the best solution?” And I truly hope you aren’t trying to draw comparisons between the two.

Also – don’t steal my baby!

I agree with Philip that traffickers are nothing but slavers. People who see other people as a commodity and nothing more.

I think it takes some extraordinary circumstances to create even a few of these people, never mind the manpower needed to oil this abduction machine.

That is created by a demand on a scale that is simply not present in other countries (giving pretty solid proof that it is because of family planning policy) coupled with extreme poverty and the promotion of disconnect between groups outside your family unit.

I don’t think there’s any one specific thing that causes any of the problems in the world, but it’s hard to ignore something that so directly points at a flaw.

These are deep rooted problems. When did it become ok to think we need to tell people when, how and how many children they can have.

As it relates to overpopulation, country-wide or world-wide, perhaps I have a naive view that the Earth itself has checks and balances to control such things. As for putting that power in the hands of humans, that’s a dangerous dangerous slope to tread. What’s the final solution?

However, I am minded to agree with the last comment where Ben says that the population problem is a regular time bomb here, which we should not detonate.

On the other hand, there was a period in the not too distant past when the population was encouraged to grow, under the belief that you had to have the manpower to build the new China. This may in part have led to the current population problem. A friend of mine is one of many children born to the same mother in that period. She was heself adopted by an Aunt.

I believe the trafficers are slavers at heart. They do not care a jot about human life, and their ilk exists in every continent. A fair chunk of the population of America are there because my ancestors did the same thing. The slave trade dies in one place and flourishes in another, sometimes in the most unexpected places

So it is that the rich rule over the poor.