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		<title>By: guizi4life</title>
		<link>http://www.lostlaowai.com/blog/general/chinese-internet-nationalism/#comment-27648</link>
		<dc:creator>guizi4life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jun 2011 08:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an article that rings very close to home. As one of the most harmless laowai in Beijing (I am polite, would never go for a &#039;dirty haircut&#039;, work hard and who spends most of his money in the country), I still get hissed at, stared at, glared at and called things just for breathing the same air as my girlfriend (who yes indeed, is Chinese). My girlfriend bares the brunt of the name calling in Chinese (race traitor, slut, anti-east...etc) 

I have come to the conclusion that 95% of Chinese men hate me. My girlfriend has lost a job because she told to her boss that she is dating a foreigner. It&#039;s a lost cause, if you live in China as a foreign man, Chinese men will hate you because chances are you have one of &quot;their&quot; women. I guess women are chattel to them. They own them or something.

Many times I ask myself why I don&#039;t just give up, be a suck and get on a plane back to my home planet. The answer is now obvious: I&#039;m staying in China just to spite all of those bastards! I will continue living here, making money and enjoy life with a beautiful and open-minded (yes it is possible) Chinese girlfriend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an article that rings very close to home. As one of the most harmless laowai in Beijing (I am polite, would never go for a &#8216;dirty haircut&#8217;, work hard and who spends most of his money in the country), I still get hissed at, stared at, glared at and called things just for breathing the same air as my girlfriend (who yes indeed, is Chinese). My girlfriend bares the brunt of the name calling in Chinese (race traitor, slut, anti-east&#8230;etc) </p>
<p>I have come to the conclusion that 95% of Chinese men hate me. My girlfriend has lost a job because she told to her boss that she is dating a foreigner. It&#8217;s a lost cause, if you live in China as a foreign man, Chinese men will hate you because chances are you have one of &#8220;their&#8221; women. I guess women are chattel to them. They own them or something.</p>
<p>Many times I ask myself why I don&#8217;t just give up, be a suck and get on a plane back to my home planet. The answer is now obvious: I&#8217;m staying in China just to spite all of those bastards! I will continue living here, making money and enjoy life with a beautiful and open-minded (yes it is possible) Chinese girlfriend.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevcom1</title>
		<link>http://www.lostlaowai.com/blog/general/chinese-internet-nationalism/#comment-27550</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevcom1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2011 09:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So are you suggesting that people keep their mouths shut and not point out what is obviously wrong all in the name of being patient? 
I would believe that the great people you mentioned that brought about change are the ones that saw the problem and pointed it out in an effort to make things better. If no one says anything how are people to know what is right and wrong. From what i understand the blog is just saying that the level of hurtful and racist comments left on the sites would never stand a chance in western comment spaces and that the people posting them need to recognize its not right.
If you are not part of the solution you are part of the problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So are you suggesting that people keep their mouths shut and not point out what is obviously wrong all in the name of being patient?<br />
I would believe that the great people you mentioned that brought about change are the ones that saw the problem and pointed it out in an effort to make things better. If no one says anything how are people to know what is right and wrong. From what i understand the blog is just saying that the level of hurtful and racist comments left on the sites would never stand a chance in western comment spaces and that the people posting them need to recognize its not right.<br />
If you are not part of the solution you are part of the problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://www.lostlaowai.com/blog/general/chinese-internet-nationalism/#comment-14011</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 10:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is obviously white guys here are oblivious to all the racism practiced in the good old USA.

To one of the guys who said they do that in China too.  Well, the problem is Chinese movies and drama are not being seen world wide.  Hollywood movies are.  Hollywood are controlled by bunch of racist Jew white men.  There is a reason why we see a zillion movies showing the Jewish experience while discounting all other minority experiences.

Have anyone ever wonder why Palestinians are bunch of terrorists while Jews are bunch of heroes?

1.  When Jews kill 1000+ Palestinians, they are protecting their country and fighting terrorism. 

2.  When China is trying to put down a domestic Uighur riot, they are violating human rights and committing genocide.

See the difference how media in this country portray both parties?  It is not surprising considering Zionist controlled media is as bias as it gets.  Yes America has freedom of speech, but that freedom is only as good as the person sending out information.  When that person is a racist white person, the message is always bias and self serving.

Yes Jew white men control Hollywood and media right now.  Something like 95% of media in USA are run by white Jewish men.  This is the reason why everyone thinks all white men are rich even when it is not true.  

What is this obsession with Asian women?  It seems these white guys only want to put Asian women in movies so they can pair with white men.  They either make Asian men invisible or try to make fun of them through ugly stereotypes.  We don&#039;t even see an Asian man with an Asian woman in American movies or TV.  How much more obvious can these racists get?  These white men obviously got some major fetish for Asian women.  Their brainwashing plan is working since there are definitely some very brainwashed whites and Asians aboard and in the USA.

As for folks who are arguing about Hollywood racism against Asian men, I will leave you with a documentary regarding this very issue.  You can hear it from actors themselves.  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJwAwH93Yhg&amp;feature=PlayList&amp;p=C3A95F25890888F4&amp;playnext=1&amp;playnext_from=PL&amp;index=18

Just remember the American domination won&#039;t last forever.  History will change again.  200 years of dominance is nothing in the history of mankind.  When someone else controls the media and economic power, things could change again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is obviously white guys here are oblivious to all the racism practiced in the good old USA.</p>
<p>To one of the guys who said they do that in China too.  Well, the problem is Chinese movies and drama are not being seen world wide.  Hollywood movies are.  Hollywood are controlled by bunch of racist Jew white men.  There is a reason why we see a zillion movies showing the Jewish experience while discounting all other minority experiences.</p>
<p>Have anyone ever wonder why Palestinians are bunch of terrorists while Jews are bunch of heroes?</p>
<p>1.  When Jews kill 1000+ Palestinians, they are protecting their country and fighting terrorism. </p>
<p>2.  When China is trying to put down a domestic Uighur riot, they are violating human rights and committing genocide.</p>
<p>See the difference how media in this country portray both parties?  It is not surprising considering Zionist controlled media is as bias as it gets.  Yes America has freedom of speech, but that freedom is only as good as the person sending out information.  When that person is a racist white person, the message is always bias and self serving.</p>
<p>Yes Jew white men control Hollywood and media right now.  Something like 95% of media in USA are run by white Jewish men.  This is the reason why everyone thinks all white men are rich even when it is not true.  </p>
<p>What is this obsession with Asian women?  It seems these white guys only want to put Asian women in movies so they can pair with white men.  They either make Asian men invisible or try to make fun of them through ugly stereotypes.  We don&#8217;t even see an Asian man with an Asian woman in American movies or TV.  How much more obvious can these racists get?  These white men obviously got some major fetish for Asian women.  Their brainwashing plan is working since there are definitely some very brainwashed whites and Asians aboard and in the USA.</p>
<p>As for folks who are arguing about Hollywood racism against Asian men, I will leave you with a documentary regarding this very issue.  You can hear it from actors themselves.  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJwAwH93Yhg&#038;feature=PlayList&#038;p=C3A95F25890888F4&#038;playnext=1&#038;playnext_from=PL&#038;index=18" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJwAwH93Yhg&#038;feature=PlayList&#038;p=C3A95F25890888F4&#038;playnext=1&#038;playnext_from=PL&#038;index=18</a></p>
<p>Just remember the American domination won&#8217;t last forever.  History will change again.  200 years of dominance is nothing in the history of mankind.  When someone else controls the media and economic power, things could change again.</p>
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		<title>By: Kev</title>
		<link>http://www.lostlaowai.com/blog/general/chinese-internet-nationalism/#comment-14010</link>
		<dc:creator>Kev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 08:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>whats even funnier are the comments posted by the women here.

&quot;Yet another reason why I’ve come to love Chinese men. They still have a sense of nobility and loyalty. Values that have since been long lost in American culture, that few ever had.&quot;

I have met more men here that have no problem visiting hookers as part of their daily life and than going home to their wives and family. I have been amazed at how nonchalant their attitude is in regards to disloyalty. When I first arrived I was invited by a group of married men to go to a sauna. When I declined they could not understand why. Fidelity here does not seem so important as long as your partner does not find out.

@mary
You seem to be yet again another example of someone who can read and write english  but has no clue what is being said. You react with anger because you assume that we as foreigners think China is bad. But if you were to think about it for a moment &quot;why would we live here if China was such a bad place to be?&quot; My hope is that there are less of your types as the years go on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>whats even funnier are the comments posted by the women here.</p>
<p>&#8220;Yet another reason why I’ve come to love Chinese men. They still have a sense of nobility and loyalty. Values that have since been long lost in American culture, that few ever had.&#8221;</p>
<p>I have met more men here that have no problem visiting hookers as part of their daily life and than going home to their wives and family. I have been amazed at how nonchalant their attitude is in regards to disloyalty. When I first arrived I was invited by a group of married men to go to a sauna. When I declined they could not understand why. Fidelity here does not seem so important as long as your partner does not find out.</p>
<p>@mary<br />
You seem to be yet again another example of someone who can read and write english  but has no clue what is being said. You react with anger because you assume that we as foreigners think China is bad. But if you were to think about it for a moment &#8220;why would we live here if China was such a bad place to be?&#8221; My hope is that there are less of your types as the years go on.</p>
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		<title>By: Kev</title>
		<link>http://www.lostlaowai.com/blog/general/chinese-internet-nationalism/#comment-14009</link>
		<dc:creator>Kev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 07:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it highly amusing the amount of anger directed towards white guys. My experience here has been that many really don&#039;t like us but want what we have. They pay us more money than their own teachers but have a hard time accepting what we teach, even when their chinese teachers are wrong. We get invited out for free food and booze but will call us monkeys while serving us. People make fools of themselves trying to impress their friends at our expense. This kind of behaviour makes no sense to me at all. As for the women I have met they have told me they are interested in foreign men because we tell them what we want. My male friends tell me how they would never talk to a person they don&#039;t know because there is a chance they will be shot down. All of this just makes no sense to me at all. I can get angry about it but instead I choose to laugh because at the end of the day its so ridiculous. I believe jealousy, self loathing and fear play a big part in some of these extremist attitudes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it highly amusing the amount of anger directed towards white guys. My experience here has been that many really don&#8217;t like us but want what we have. They pay us more money than their own teachers but have a hard time accepting what we teach, even when their chinese teachers are wrong. We get invited out for free food and booze but will call us monkeys while serving us. People make fools of themselves trying to impress their friends at our expense. This kind of behaviour makes no sense to me at all. As for the women I have met they have told me they are interested in foreign men because we tell them what we want. My male friends tell me how they would never talk to a person they don&#8217;t know because there is a chance they will be shot down. All of this just makes no sense to me at all. I can get angry about it but instead I choose to laugh because at the end of the day its so ridiculous. I believe jealousy, self loathing and fear play a big part in some of these extremist attitudes.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Nationalist</title>
		<link>http://www.lostlaowai.com/blog/general/chinese-internet-nationalism/#comment-14007</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles Nationalist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Jul 2009 03:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That Guy was a fucking Jew. Not a white male. A Khazar Ashkenazi Jew Bastrad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That Guy was a fucking Jew. Not a white male. A Khazar Ashkenazi Jew Bastrad.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny likes bangkok dating</title>
		<link>http://www.lostlaowai.com/blog/general/chinese-internet-nationalism/#comment-13406</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnny likes bangkok dating</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 May 2009 08:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have a nice blog. I&#039;ve added it to my faves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have a nice blog. I&#8217;ve added it to my faves.</p>
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		<title>By: Hate China Women Forever</title>
		<link>http://www.lostlaowai.com/blog/general/chinese-internet-nationalism/#comment-12734</link>
		<dc:creator>Hate China Women Forever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 04:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>China girls are all bitches!! What they want is just your money, money and more money!! Nothing else is in their mind. when they come to a new country, the China women already have their mission statement, which is &quot;to cheat money from the local Man&quot;. The China women are so shameless, fucking shameless. hate their attitude and hate their look! Why they must become prostitutes? Can&#039;t they find any other job that is legal and stop digging the money from MAN? 
Anyway the impression of the China WOMEN for me is DISGUSTING!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>China girls are all bitches!! What they want is just your money, money and more money!! Nothing else is in their mind. when they come to a new country, the China women already have their mission statement, which is &#8220;to cheat money from the local Man&#8221;. The China women are so shameless, fucking shameless. hate their attitude and hate their look! Why they must become prostitutes? Can&#8217;t they find any other job that is legal and stop digging the money from MAN?<br />
Anyway the impression of the China WOMEN for me is DISGUSTING!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.lostlaowai.com/blog/general/chinese-internet-nationalism/#comment-12728</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 16:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To examine xenophobia or bigotry, we need to look like more concrete evidence such as beliefs and action.

My open challenge to Sean and those who agree with him to show me literature, campaign or movement dedicated to &quot;scientific&quot;, &quot;religious&quot; or spiritual racism and evidence of Chinese people subjugating minority into inferior political/socio-economic status or deliberate and significant practice to avoid &quot;miscegenation&quot; or practise segregation in Modern China or in Chinese histroy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To examine xenophobia or bigotry, we need to look like more concrete evidence such as beliefs and action.</p>
<p>My open challenge to Sean and those who agree with him to show me literature, campaign or movement dedicated to &#8220;scientific&#8221;, &#8220;religious&#8221; or spiritual racism and evidence of Chinese people subjugating minority into inferior political/socio-economic status or deliberate and significant practice to avoid &#8220;miscegenation&#8221; or practise segregation in Modern China or in Chinese histroy.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.lostlaowai.com/blog/general/chinese-internet-nationalism/#comment-12727</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Mar 2009 16:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Im speaking as someone who has the experience of growing up in China and the understanding of abit of sociological theory.

There is more than enough evidence to show that China netizen have little maturity in posting comments but it would be naturally falling into a kind of culturally biased perspective to compare such negative comments with western racism that has diminished but yet suvived at an institutional level together with the progressive advancement of a civil society.

For quick introduction, these points are mentioned. They are not hard and fast rules but frequent patterns in their conversation and culture.

Chinese netizens like to use &quot;tongue in cheek&quot; remarks or abusive language without a deep conviction in faith or &quot;logical deduction&quot; for the sake of criticising and making fun of issues.

There might be popular inferiority complex towards &quot;laowai&quot; from &quot;powerful&quot; (developed)countries but Chinese people, almost all, have no deep belief in coloured coded form of racial bigotry. An abusive remark can be directed Southern/northern,(size, culture) migrant worker of different provincial ancestry (poverty) or an American (arrogant imperialist) or more intensively towards Japanese(history of aggression and genocide in China) But yet philosophically Chinese perception of a value of a person is based on his merit,(paper qualification, money, attraction or power)due to (confucian?) and the physical existence of a person being distinct from what he is due to (Taosim? Non-abrahamic conception of existence?) General popular belief in success coming from hardwork independent of giftness (as compared to American belief such as bell curve, race and IQ).

Inter-marriage between non-Han and Han in China and intermarriage involving Han-Chinese dispora oversea remains statistically high. The non-seriousness of insensitive remarks by Chinese Netizen, (cursing other&#039;s ancestors, making fun of ugly people, popular celebrity, and occasional jingoistic militant remarks in Cross-strait political ties) must be understood with reference to contemporary chinese culture and best described as a temporary phenomenon in a transitory phase of the nation marked by high level of dissatisfcation from inequality and stress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Im speaking as someone who has the experience of growing up in China and the understanding of abit of sociological theory.</p>
<p>There is more than enough evidence to show that China netizen have little maturity in posting comments but it would be naturally falling into a kind of culturally biased perspective to compare such negative comments with western racism that has diminished but yet suvived at an institutional level together with the progressive advancement of a civil society.</p>
<p>For quick introduction, these points are mentioned. They are not hard and fast rules but frequent patterns in their conversation and culture.</p>
<p>Chinese netizens like to use &#8220;tongue in cheek&#8221; remarks or abusive language without a deep conviction in faith or &#8220;logical deduction&#8221; for the sake of criticising and making fun of issues.</p>
<p>There might be popular inferiority complex towards &#8220;laowai&#8221; from &#8220;powerful&#8221; (developed)countries but Chinese people, almost all, have no deep belief in coloured coded form of racial bigotry. An abusive remark can be directed Southern/northern,(size, culture) migrant worker of different provincial ancestry (poverty) or an American (arrogant imperialist) or more intensively towards Japanese(history of aggression and genocide in China) But yet philosophically Chinese perception of a value of a person is based on his merit,(paper qualification, money, attraction or power)due to (confucian?) and the physical existence of a person being distinct from what he is due to (Taosim? Non-abrahamic conception of existence?) General popular belief in success coming from hardwork independent of giftness (as compared to American belief such as bell curve, race and IQ).</p>
<p>Inter-marriage between non-Han and Han in China and intermarriage involving Han-Chinese dispora oversea remains statistically high. The non-seriousness of insensitive remarks by Chinese Netizen, (cursing other&#8217;s ancestors, making fun of ugly people, popular celebrity, and occasional jingoistic militant remarks in Cross-strait political ties) must be understood with reference to contemporary chinese culture and best described as a temporary phenomenon in a transitory phase of the nation marked by high level of dissatisfcation from inequality and stress.</p>
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