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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://www.lostlaowai.com/blog/learning-chinese/speaking-english-in-china/#comment-30908</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2011 10:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found your blog really interesting. The problem is, we speak the &quot;native English&quot;. Not what other European countries learn with the odd mistake here and there, English. You&#039;re like a Christmas Present to them that they can only spend say 5-10 minutes with and once you&#039;re gone, you&#039;re gone. I am living in Austria and studying German at University. Low and behold, the moment the so called English accent arises &quot;Ohh, and you are from England?&quot; NEVER say you are from England- it is a mistake and can only lead to attempts of English. Holland is the preferable choice, I have also used France- but I cannot perfect that accent ;).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found your blog really interesting. The problem is, we speak the &#8220;native English&#8221;. Not what other European countries learn with the odd mistake here and there, English. You&#8217;re like a Christmas Present to them that they can only spend say 5-10 minutes with and once you&#8217;re gone, you&#8217;re gone. I am living in Austria and studying German at University. Low and behold, the moment the so called English accent arises &#8220;Ohh, and you are from England?&#8221; NEVER say you are from England- it is a mistake and can only lead to attempts of English. Holland is the preferable choice, I have also used France- but I cannot perfect that accent <img src='http://www.lostlaowai.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> .</p>
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		<title>By: robbie</title>
		<link>http://www.lostlaowai.com/blog/learning-chinese/speaking-english-in-china/#comment-28354</link>
		<dc:creator>robbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jul 2011 11:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting one! Here&#039;s another cool one on this topic that could complement this piece : http://thinkingchinese.com/index.php?page_id=333 , analyzing the difficulties Chinese have with English</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting one! Here&#8217;s another cool one on this topic that could complement this piece : <a href="http://thinkingchinese.com/index.php?page_id=333" rel="nofollow">http://thinkingchinese.com/index.php?page_id=333</a> , analyzing the difficulties Chinese have with English</p>
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		<title>By: David Pritts</title>
		<link>http://www.lostlaowai.com/blog/learning-chinese/speaking-english-in-china/#comment-27808</link>
		<dc:creator>David Pritts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jun 2011 15:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with what you&#039;ve said, Yersi. And god damn, you most have worked hard not only on your Mandarin, but on your English, too. I cannot find any reason to believe you would be anything but a native speaker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with what you&#8217;ve said, Yersi. And god damn, you most have worked hard not only on your Mandarin, but on your English, too. I cannot find any reason to believe you would be anything but a native speaker.</p>
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		<title>By: learn Chinese in China</title>
		<link>http://www.lostlaowai.com/blog/learning-chinese/speaking-english-in-china/#comment-27594</link>
		<dc:creator>learn Chinese in China</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 May 2011 10:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree with you. I have a friend, a french guy, who has been in beijing since last september, but he just doesn&#039;t want to try to speak chinese, he has opportunities to practice chinese, example the family of his chinese friend, but he maybe too shy? Now he can only say &quot;nihao&quot; &quot;xiexie&quot; &quot;buyong&quot; &quot;chabuduo&quot;, that&#039;s all. He&#039;s really wasting his time...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree with you. I have a friend, a french guy, who has been in beijing since last september, but he just doesn&#8217;t want to try to speak chinese, he has opportunities to practice chinese, example the family of his chinese friend, but he maybe too shy? Now he can only say &#8220;nihao&#8221; &#8220;xiexie&#8221; &#8220;buyong&#8221; &#8220;chabuduo&#8221;, that&#8217;s all. He&#8217;s really wasting his time&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Robbie</title>
		<link>http://www.lostlaowai.com/blog/learning-chinese/speaking-english-in-china/#comment-27558</link>
		<dc:creator>Robbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 May 2011 12:31:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just looked at this website today...was outside of a restaurant listening to my MP3, really adamant in thinking I would nt get interrupted.  Then the normal questions....where are you from? etc,  Just really annoys me!  It shouldn&#039;t but it does.  Because it&#039;s my free time and I dont want to be a walking English computer.  I will follow your advice Johnson!  Nice!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just looked at this website today&#8230;was outside of a restaurant listening to my MP3, really adamant in thinking I would nt get interrupted.  Then the normal questions&#8230;.where are you from? etc,  Just really annoys me!  It shouldn&#8217;t but it does.  Because it&#8217;s my free time and I dont want to be a walking English computer.  I will follow your advice Johnson!  Nice!</p>
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		<title>By: geandy pavon</title>
		<link>http://www.lostlaowai.com/blog/learning-chinese/speaking-english-in-china/#comment-27504</link>
		<dc:creator>geandy pavon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2011 21:34:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, my name is Geandy Pavon, I m a Cuban American artist base in the NY area. Last night I and my team did a new edition of the art performance &quot;Nemesis&quot; this time as an homage to jailed Chinese artist Ai Weiwei, here is the link: http://mixingmemoryanddesire.com/2011/05/21/“nemesis”-ai-weiwei-in-new-york-city/
I&#039;m asking your support  in helping promote this action among the Chinese community.
Thank you so munch
Best regards
Geandy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, my name is Geandy Pavon, I m a Cuban American artist base in the NY area. Last night I and my team did a new edition of the art performance &#8220;Nemesis&#8221; this time as an homage to jailed Chinese artist Ai Weiwei, here is the link: <a href="http://mixingmemoryanddesire.com/2011/05/21/“nemesis”-ai-weiwei-in-new-york-city/" rel="nofollow">http://mixingmemoryanddesire.com/2011/05/21/“nemesis”-ai-weiwei-in-new-york-city/</a><br />
I&#8217;m asking your support  in helping promote this action among the Chinese community.<br />
Thank you so munch<br />
Best regards<br />
Geandy</p>
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		<title>By: Johnson</title>
		<link>http://www.lostlaowai.com/blog/learning-chinese/speaking-english-in-china/#comment-27341</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Apr 2011 17:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup, I&#039;m with Yersi. The odd shopkeeper, little kid that can only speak a few words of English is fine, but anyone with better language skills than that gets a two-pronged attack:

1) Everytime they say sometime I always act as though I can&#039;t understand and make them repeat it twice.

2) I respond exactly as a I would to another native speaker, without any attempt to simplify my grammar, vocabulary, or reduce speed.

As a result any English conversations are incredibly painful, and anyone who doesn&#039;t end up switching to Mandarin ends up not talking to me altogether :P .  

Sure, it&#039;s not very nice, but it gets the job done.  And I don&#039;t have much sympathy for the hordes of people coming up and saying, &quot;Hi, can we be friends? What&#039;s your QQ? Can we set up a time to practice oral English and maybe you can write my English papers for me thanks?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup, I&#8217;m with Yersi. The odd shopkeeper, little kid that can only speak a few words of English is fine, but anyone with better language skills than that gets a two-pronged attack:</p>
<p>1) Everytime they say sometime I always act as though I can&#8217;t understand and make them repeat it twice.</p>
<p>2) I respond exactly as a I would to another native speaker, without any attempt to simplify my grammar, vocabulary, or reduce speed.</p>
<p>As a result any English conversations are incredibly painful, and anyone who doesn&#8217;t end up switching to Mandarin ends up not talking to me altogether <img src='http://www.lostlaowai.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' />  .  </p>
<p>Sure, it&#8217;s not very nice, but it gets the job done.  And I don&#8217;t have much sympathy for the hordes of people coming up and saying, &#8220;Hi, can we be friends? What&#8217;s your QQ? Can we set up a time to practice oral English and maybe you can write my English papers for me thanks?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Yersi</title>
		<link>http://www.lostlaowai.com/blog/learning-chinese/speaking-english-in-china/#comment-26804</link>
		<dc:creator>Yersi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Feb 2011 08:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My native language is not English and I get extremely offended when Chinese people insist on speaking it with me. When I started working here I tried speaking 50/50 English and Chinese, but my coworkers quickly seized on this opportunity to speak exclusively to me in English, and I got so disappointed with their attitude that I promised myself never to utter a single word of English to a Chinese person again. 

What disappointed me the most was that even though many of them solicited suggestions on how to improve their English or wanted me to correct them, only a select few seemed to care about what I pointed out. Most of them kept on repeating the same mistakes even after I had pointed them out countless times. The whole experience of speaking English with them made me feel used and otherized, like I was some goddamn mannequin there for them to regurgitate sample sentences. 

Now, when anyone tries to speak English to me I pretend not to understand, which in turn makes them insecure (face loss) and more likely to speak Chinese. I also do all correspondence (emails, text messages etc.) exclusively in Chinese. 

Over the years I&#039;ve gotten close to a native-sounding Mandarin in a lot of situations, and I&#039;ve found that as my pronunciation got smoother there were only a few diehards left that insisted on speaking English to me. I also pay close attention to any feedback I get and take any suggestions people offer very seriously. I dare suggest I&#039;ve worked much harder to attain my current level in Mandarin than any of them have with their English, and thus fail to see any moral imperative to help them improve their English, seeing its not my native language and the conversation goes much smoother when one of the parties are speaking the language they grew up with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My native language is not English and I get extremely offended when Chinese people insist on speaking it with me. When I started working here I tried speaking 50/50 English and Chinese, but my coworkers quickly seized on this opportunity to speak exclusively to me in English, and I got so disappointed with their attitude that I promised myself never to utter a single word of English to a Chinese person again. </p>
<p>What disappointed me the most was that even though many of them solicited suggestions on how to improve their English or wanted me to correct them, only a select few seemed to care about what I pointed out. Most of them kept on repeating the same mistakes even after I had pointed them out countless times. The whole experience of speaking English with them made me feel used and otherized, like I was some goddamn mannequin there for them to regurgitate sample sentences. </p>
<p>Now, when anyone tries to speak English to me I pretend not to understand, which in turn makes them insecure (face loss) and more likely to speak Chinese. I also do all correspondence (emails, text messages etc.) exclusively in Chinese. </p>
<p>Over the years I&#8217;ve gotten close to a native-sounding Mandarin in a lot of situations, and I&#8217;ve found that as my pronunciation got smoother there were only a few diehards left that insisted on speaking English to me. I also pay close attention to any feedback I get and take any suggestions people offer very seriously. I dare suggest I&#8217;ve worked much harder to attain my current level in Mandarin than any of them have with their English, and thus fail to see any moral imperative to help them improve their English, seeing its not my native language and the conversation goes much smoother when one of the parties are speaking the language they grew up with.</p>
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		<title>By: tennislaowai</title>
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		<dc:creator>tennislaowai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 15:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a foreigner in Beijing and it is very annoying to have these language struggles.  My Chinese is to the point where it is better than most of their English, but that is besides the point.  Yes I understand that Chinese people want to practice their English because they may not have the chance to leave the country, but at the same time one of my main reasons for coming here was to learn the language.  Furthermore, the majority of the people here that want to be your &quot;friend&quot; are just using you, which is frustrating.  We are in CHINA we should speak Chinese.  If someones English is better than my Chinese, I will concede just for sake of convenience, but other than that, I feel like I have to fight just to speak the national language.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a foreigner in Beijing and it is very annoying to have these language struggles.  My Chinese is to the point where it is better than most of their English, but that is besides the point.  Yes I understand that Chinese people want to practice their English because they may not have the chance to leave the country, but at the same time one of my main reasons for coming here was to learn the language.  Furthermore, the majority of the people here that want to be your &#8220;friend&#8221; are just using you, which is frustrating.  We are in CHINA we should speak Chinese.  If someones English is better than my Chinese, I will concede just for sake of convenience, but other than that, I feel like I have to fight just to speak the national language.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://www.lostlaowai.com/blog/learning-chinese/speaking-english-in-china/#comment-21881</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2010 03:39:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Had those really odd grammar, weird tonese, and protestations but I still want to learn this language.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Had those really odd grammar, weird tonese, and protestations but I still want to learn this language.</p>
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