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	<title>Comments on: A Treatise on the Persistent Rubbing of Chinese Loyalist Excrement in the Faces of Certain Beijing Bloggers</title>
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		<title>By: Horatio Von Awesome</title>
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		<dc:creator>Horatio Von Awesome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2008 06:52:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also late on this mail.  Apologies.

@rob:  I&#039;m not sure what &#039;maths&#039; has to do with it.  After all, mathematics is logical, and logic would dictate a &#039;greater good&#039; kind of &#039;realism&#039; that is greatly favoured anyway.  Seems like anyone with good maths would be in full agreement with most of what goes on.

However, I agree that it takes a LOT to get a chinese person to open up.  And when it DOES happen, hell, i&#039;m not sure it&#039;s even worth it because it&#039;s gonna take ten years of friendship, and it&#039;ll still just be one person in a whole gazillion, and they might just be one of the special ones, the deep thinkers common to every country.  You could spend ten years on the next person too, but that&#039;s a good deal of your life gone, and you have the true opinions of 2 chinese people.  big deal, huh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also late on this mail.  Apologies.</p>
<p>@rob:  I&#8217;m not sure what &#8216;maths&#8217; has to do with it.  After all, mathematics is logical, and logic would dictate a &#8216;greater good&#8217; kind of &#8216;realism&#8217; that is greatly favoured anyway.  Seems like anyone with good maths would be in full agreement with most of what goes on.</p>
<p>However, I agree that it takes a LOT to get a chinese person to open up.  And when it DOES happen, hell, i&#8217;m not sure it&#8217;s even worth it because it&#8217;s gonna take ten years of friendship, and it&#8217;ll still just be one person in a whole gazillion, and they might just be one of the special ones, the deep thinkers common to every country.  You could spend ten years on the next person too, but that&#8217;s a good deal of your life gone, and you have the true opinions of 2 chinese people.  big deal, huh?</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://www.lostlaowai.com/blog/general/a-treatise-on-the-persistent-rubbing-of-chinese-loyalist-excrement-in-the-faces-of-certain-beijing-bloggers/#comment-8147</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 15:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m late on this mail, but you really have missed someting enormous. Any intelligent Chinese peson is not going to share with you their innermost thoughts on their government and society. It took me years to get this. I promise you - get close (very close) and you might get it. Do you really think that people with such good maths do not think deeply, and analyze the world as you do?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m late on this mail, but you really have missed someting enormous. Any intelligent Chinese peson is not going to share with you their innermost thoughts on their government and society. It took me years to get this. I promise you &#8211; get close (very close) and you might get it. Do you really think that people with such good maths do not think deeply, and analyze the world as you do?</p>
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		<title>By: matthew</title>
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		<dc:creator>matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 11:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should send you my picture of the &quot;Propaganda and Education Room&quot; from my old neighborhood.

You should also hear some of the things my students have said in the last year to me about China... none of it what the government wants to hear. I can&#039;t repeat it for fear of deportation. I&#039;ll save it for the book to be banned in the Middle Kingdom later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should send you my picture of the &#8220;Propaganda and Education Room&#8221; from my old neighborhood.</p>
<p>You should also hear some of the things my students have said in the last year to me about China&#8230; none of it what the government wants to hear. I can&#8217;t repeat it for fear of deportation. I&#8217;ll save it for the book to be banned in the Middle Kingdom later.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Nov 2007 02:50:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Sean: The congregation tends to be volatile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sean: The congregation tends to be volatile.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://www.lostlaowai.com/blog/general/a-treatise-on-the-persistent-rubbing-of-chinese-loyalist-excrement-in-the-faces-of-certain-beijing-bloggers/#comment-7682</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 23:17:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Preaching to the choir.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Preaching to the choir.</p>
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		<title>By: Ubermonkey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ubermonkey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 07:19:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the smell of brain matter in the morning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the smell of brain matter in the morning.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 06:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It’s in human nature to question things, to be curious. I see that twinkle. You’ve probably seen it, too. In the eyes of those scientific researchers and NGO supporters and tycoons of business and wide-eyed teenagers - they know there’s something more out there than the bullshit they’re fed. Which they then double dip and shove in our mouths.

And yet, not one of them will utter a single word.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It&#039;s a frigin&#039; tragedy is what it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It’s in human nature to question things, to be curious. I see that twinkle. You’ve probably seen it, too. In the eyes of those scientific researchers and NGO supporters and tycoons of business and wide-eyed teenagers &#8211; they know there’s something more out there than the bullshit they’re fed. Which they then double dip and shove in our mouths.</p>
<p>And yet, not one of them will utter a single word.</p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s a frigin&#8217; tragedy is what it is.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2007 05:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I sense some pent-up frustration. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I sense some pent-up frustration. <img src='http://www.lostlaowai.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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