Comments on: The convictions of truths and lies in China http://www.lostlaowai.com/commentary/blog/2007/07/22/the-convictions-of-truths-and-lies-in-china/ The no-nonsense China expat and traveller community. Thu, 07 Aug 2008 20:47:44 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: MyLaowai http://www.lostlaowai.com/commentary/blog/2007/07/22/the-convictions-of-truths-and-lies-in-china/#comment-6585 MyLaowai Sun, 05 Aug 2007 02:36:49 +0000 http://www.lostlaowai.com/commentary/blog/2007/07/22/the-convictions-of-truths-and-lies-in-china/#comment-6585 Actually, one just gets one of the twins in a armlock, and says: "Tell me which path is safe or I'll break your arm. And oh yes, you're going to be walking it two feet in front of me, so don't play games. How's the arm, by the way?" There's something in that for all of us. Actually, one just gets one of the twins in a armlock, and says: “Tell me which path is safe or I’ll break your arm. And oh yes, you’re going to be walking it two feet in front of me, so don’t play games. How’s the arm, by the way?”

There’s something in that for all of us.

]]> By: Sean http://www.lostlaowai.com/commentary/blog/2007/07/22/the-convictions-of-truths-and-lies-in-china/#comment-6520 Sean Tue, 24 Jul 2007 05:03:15 +0000 http://www.lostlaowai.com/commentary/blog/2007/07/22/the-convictions-of-truths-and-lies-in-china/#comment-6520 I am with Chris, I have so say that although skepticism is not all that fun, at least you are welcome to the notion that there might be a problem rather than the, "meiwenti!" attitude I see so often. Tires, catfish, Evian and crabs are not the end, and this tit-for-tat defense is not going to end soon. Chinese need to step back and not get emotional and let the "professionals" do their work of detecting bad goods. I think they have a tendency to take everything as a personal attack on their country. Foreign media needs to do a little more work on their stories. This however will not change soon I fear. Western media is less that balanced and will do anything to get a "story". At the end of the day it is the fault of the importing structure that did not check the good properly as they were entering Panama, the US, or Taiwan. If they were stopped at port and checked properly this would not have even become a story. As you said with the Chuar, people will lie, cheat, and steal for money everywhere in the world and knowing that we all have to be more careful. "Meiwenti" is not an answer we should accept so often. I am with Chris, I have so say that although skepticism is not all that fun, at least you are welcome to the notion that there might be a problem rather than the, “meiwenti!” attitude I see so often.

Tires, catfish, Evian and crabs are not the end, and this tit-for-tat defense is not going to end soon.

Chinese need to step back and not get emotional and let the “professionals” do their work of detecting bad goods. I think they have a tendency to take everything as a personal attack on their country.

Foreign media needs to do a little more work on their stories. This however will not change soon I fear. Western media is less that balanced and will do anything to get a “story”.

At the end of the day it is the fault of the importing structure that did not check the good properly as they were entering Panama, the US, or Taiwan. If they were stopped at port and checked properly this would not have even become a story.

As you said with the Chuar, people will lie, cheat, and steal for money everywhere in the world and knowing that we all have to be more careful. “Meiwenti” is not an answer we should accept so often.

]]> By: Chris http://www.lostlaowai.com/commentary/blog/2007/07/22/the-convictions-of-truths-and-lies-in-china/#comment-6519 Chris Mon, 23 Jul 2007 17:16:38 +0000 http://www.lostlaowai.com/commentary/blog/2007/07/22/the-convictions-of-truths-and-lies-in-china/#comment-6519 As for me, I'll remain skeptical. As for me, I’ll remain skeptical.

]]> By: Ryan http://www.lostlaowai.com/commentary/blog/2007/07/22/the-convictions-of-truths-and-lies-in-china/#comment-6516 Ryan Sun, 22 Jul 2007 23:33:13 +0000 http://www.lostlaowai.com/commentary/blog/2007/07/22/the-convictions-of-truths-and-lies-in-china/#comment-6516 Anyone that wants to see an article about it but not download a PDF: <a href="http://en.ce.cn/National/Politics/200707/18/t20070718_12213519.shtml" rel="nofollow">China says alleged faulty tires up to US standards</a>. And so in lives the problem outlined above. Who/what do you believe? It's not the accusers reporting this, but the accused. It's not to say that it isn't true and that there are likely going to be MANY reports out of the fear riddled US about crap from China. The problem is we've got a fearmonger media on one side and a lying/cover-up policy on the other. Bad math. Anyone that wants to see an article about it but not download a PDF: China says alleged faulty tires up to US standards.

And so in lives the problem outlined above. Who/what do you believe? It’s not the accusers reporting this, but the accused.

It’s not to say that it isn’t true and that there are likely going to be MANY reports out of the fear riddled US about crap from China. The problem is we’ve got a fearmonger media on one side and a lying/cover-up policy on the other.

Bad math.

]]> By: Charles Liu http://www.lostlaowai.com/commentary/blog/2007/07/22/the-convictions-of-truths-and-lies-in-china/#comment-6515 Charles Liu Sun, 22 Jul 2007 19:23:11 +0000 http://www.lostlaowai.com/commentary/blog/2007/07/22/the-convictions-of-truths-and-lies-in-china/#comment-6515 Ryan, here's another "hoax" of sort - from American media. Accusation about unsafe Chinese-made tires turned out to have passed all US Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards: http://tinyurl.com/27tks4 Ryan, here’s another “hoax” of sort - from American media.

Accusation about unsafe Chinese-made tires turned out to have passed all US Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards:

http://tinyurl.com/27tks4

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