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	<title>Comments on: Carrefour needs catchy mobile meme</title>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 20:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Summer</title>
		<link>http://www.lostlaowai.com/blog/2008/04/19/carrefour-needs-catchy-mobile-meme/#comment-10167</link>
		<dc:creator>Summer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 06:16:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to double post, but I thought I should specify what I meant.  Talks here about Tibet is almost always coupled with complains about defective imports from China, jobs lost to China, or even Chinese spies.  How can anyone really believe that this is about people under the CCP rule's human rights and not about competition?

When had ethic Chinese outside China ever really been this unified toward backing the CCP?  With your knowledge, do you really think people inside the country actually still never question the government?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to double post, but I thought I should specify what I meant.  Talks here about Tibet is almost always coupled with complains about defective imports from China, jobs lost to China, or even Chinese spies.  How can anyone really believe that this is about people under the CCP rule&#8217;s human rights and not about competition?</p>
<p>When had ethic Chinese outside China ever really been this unified toward backing the CCP?  With your knowledge, do you really think people inside the country actually still never question the government?</p>
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		<title>By: Summer</title>
		<link>http://www.lostlaowai.com/blog/2008/04/19/carrefour-needs-catchy-mobile-meme/#comment-10166</link>
		<dc:creator>Summer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 05:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seriously, people.  If you really want a people to believe that you are trying to help them and not bring them down, at least *try* to look at reasons other than "they are brainwashed" of why they aren't buying it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously, people.  If you really want a people to believe that you are trying to help them and not bring them down, at least *try* to look at reasons other than &#8220;they are brainwashed&#8221; of why they aren&#8217;t buying it.</p>
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		<title>By: Hao</title>
		<link>http://www.lostlaowai.com/blog/2008/04/19/carrefour-needs-catchy-mobile-meme/#comment-9710</link>
		<dc:creator>Hao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 10:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ppmartin
a)"Corsica is part of France because the majority of people in Corsica prefer it that way and democratically voted so" -- maybe you are right, but my question is if most people living there voting for independence, will the France government agree? Will the British government let the Northern Ireland or Scotland be independent?The problem is there is not a common rule for this ethical problem. There are more than 2000 different ethical groups on  the world, how many countries we have?
b)I agree some Chinese mixed the Chinese people and the Chinese government, but apparently not only Chinese have this problem.
c)about Tibet issues, minorities should be fully respected, this government need lots to be improved, but the problem is when the people or the media critisizes Chinese government, at least learn some history and being equal, no body reported the policy for minorities in China, is anybody know, if a minority Chinese married a han Chinese, normally the family will let the kid will follow the minority nation, because there are more benefits for a minority in China.(for example, no one child policy for minority, easier to go to university, even when there is crime, etc). 
d)one party policy have lots of problems, but democracy need time to improve, a stable nation is most important and good for all Chinese, reform is better than revolution at least at my point of view, and life is getting better day by day in China, but why so many people in Europe see this Chinese government like a evil demon. Last time when my colleague got drunk, he was keeping asking me, what a evil government you have, why you Chinese guys do not launch a revolution. Even he agreed that after that the whole nation will be separated.
We are all human beings living on this planet, fighting in the name of religion, territory, freedom, etc. Two nations could be friends when they have the same enemies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ppmartin<br />
a)&#8221;Corsica is part of France because the majority of people in Corsica prefer it that way and democratically voted so&#8221; &#8212; maybe you are right, but my question is if most people living there voting for independence, will the France government agree? Will the British government let the Northern Ireland or Scotland be independent?The problem is there is not a common rule for this ethical problem. There are more than 2000 different ethical groups on  the world, how many countries we have?<br />
b)I agree some Chinese mixed the Chinese people and the Chinese government, but apparently not only Chinese have this problem.<br />
c)about Tibet issues, minorities should be fully respected, this government need lots to be improved, but the problem is when the people or the media critisizes Chinese government, at least learn some history and being equal, no body reported the policy for minorities in China, is anybody know, if a minority Chinese married a han Chinese, normally the family will let the kid will follow the minority nation, because there are more benefits for a minority in China.(for example, no one child policy for minority, easier to go to university, even when there is crime, etc).<br />
d)one party policy have lots of problems, but democracy need time to improve, a stable nation is most important and good for all Chinese, reform is better than revolution at least at my point of view, and life is getting better day by day in China, but why so many people in Europe see this Chinese government like a evil demon. Last time when my colleague got drunk, he was keeping asking me, what a evil government you have, why you Chinese guys do not launch a revolution. Even he agreed that after that the whole nation will be separated.<br />
We are all human beings living on this planet, fighting in the name of religion, territory, freedom, etc. Two nations could be friends when they have the same enemies.</p>
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		<title>By: Recent comment on a &#8220;Lost LaoWai&#8221; post &#171; PPM&#8217;s Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Recent comment on a &#8220;Lost LaoWai&#8221; post &#171; PPM&#8217;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 06:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Recent comment on a &#8220;Lost LaoWai&#8221;&#160;post Ryan at Lost LaoWai wrote about Carrefour needs catchy mobile meme. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: ppmartin</title>
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		<dc:creator>ppmartin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 02:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Caroline,

I am afraid you are promoting an old-fashioned and divisive view of the blue planet.

Please bear in mind a) that there is no such thing as "westerners", but rather billions of humans on the planet with many different ideas and original beliefs etc, b) that the Dalai Lama is not asking for independence, but for some degree of regional autonomy, c) that Corsica is part of France because the majority of people in Corsica prefer it that way and democratically voted so, d) and that the other humans on the planet are not "against China", but wish its government would allow the other humans who happen to leave in China to enjoy more tolerance of minorities and more liberty of expression.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Caroline,</p>
<p>I am afraid you are promoting an old-fashioned and divisive view of the blue planet.</p>
<p>Please bear in mind a) that there is no such thing as &#8220;westerners&#8221;, but rather billions of humans on the planet with many different ideas and original beliefs etc, b) that the Dalai Lama is not asking for independence, but for some degree of regional autonomy, c) that Corsica is part of France because the majority of people in Corsica prefer it that way and democratically voted so, d) and that the other humans on the planet are not &#8220;against China&#8221;, but wish its government would allow the other humans who happen to leave in China to enjoy more tolerance of minorities and more liberty of expression.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.lostlaowai.com/blog/2008/04/19/carrefour-needs-catchy-mobile-meme/#comment-9707</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 01:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Matthew: There was a string of garbage from Walter. Generally it is not my policy to erase comments I "feel" are garbage as I want everyone to feel they can voice their opinion here (which is why I left his craptastically mundane straight-from-the-book comment above).

However, he then proceeded to spam the comments (4-5 messages in a row). I've 0 tolerance for such behavior.

I need to come up with a solid comment policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Matthew: There was a string of garbage from Walter. Generally it is not my policy to erase comments I &#8220;feel&#8221; are garbage as I want everyone to feel they can voice their opinion here (which is why I left his craptastically mundane straight-from-the-book comment above).</p>
<p>However, he then proceeded to spam the comments (4-5 messages in a row). I&#8217;ve 0 tolerance for such behavior.</p>
<p>I need to come up with a solid comment policy.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://www.lostlaowai.com/blog/2008/04/19/carrefour-needs-catchy-mobile-meme/#comment-9704</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 17:41:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ryan: i agree with u on the intepretation of being strong. China is still far away from this criterion. Military power may be neccessary, but it will not make people happy. It is at most a way to protect peace and happiness. Not a country can last long if it loves war.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ryan: i agree with u on the intepretation of being strong. China is still far away from this criterion. Military power may be neccessary, but it will not make people happy. It is at most a way to protect peace and happiness. Not a country can last long if it loves war.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Stinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew Stinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 17:15:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, were the flood of commenters on this post on Wednesday real Chinese using websites to translate bad ideas into Chinglish, or foreigners pretending to be Chinese and writing comments that look like machine-translated English?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, were the flood of commenters on this post on Wednesday real Chinese using websites to translate bad ideas into Chinglish, or foreigners pretending to be Chinese and writing comments that look like machine-translated English?</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 07:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>我不会明白你。</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>我不会明白你。</p>
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		<title>By: walter</title>
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		<dc:creator>walter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 07:11:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is how many France should be thinking now: we have treated frence people as friends and we have done nothing bad to you, why they hate us so much as reflected in the late events in Peking?To boycott goods is obvious  the wise way,  it is the easiest way to show our sentiment. Moreover, many western people have the wrong opinions towards Tibet. In their mind, Dalai Lama is an hero for both freedom and peace. But in china, Dalai doed be the bad man who want to separate china. In china people may  have adequente freedom as those in western countries, in china both tibetan chinese and other chinese share the same degree of freedom. Sometimes tibetan chinese even have more freedom than common chinese. For example, while most chinese family can have only one baby, the tibetan families can have as many as they can.  Lack of misunderstanding is the basic reason for western . If we wanna live on this planet peacefully, we shall try our best to understand each other, right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is how many France should be thinking now: we have treated frence people as friends and we have done nothing bad to you, why they hate us so much as reflected in the late events in Peking?To boycott goods is obvious  the wise way,  it is the easiest way to show our sentiment. Moreover, many western people have the wrong opinions towards Tibet. In their mind, Dalai Lama is an hero for both freedom and peace. But in china, Dalai doed be the bad man who want to separate china. In china people may  have adequente freedom as those in western countries, in china both tibetan chinese and other chinese share the same degree of freedom. Sometimes tibetan chinese even have more freedom than common chinese. For example, while most chinese family can have only one baby, the tibetan families can have as many as they can.  Lack of misunderstanding is the basic reason for western . If we wanna live on this planet peacefully, we shall try our best to understand each other, right?</p>
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