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	<title>Comments on: In Defense of Your Er Nai, by: the male ego</title>
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	<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 02:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: blue</title>
		<link>http://www.lostlaowai.com/blog/2008/04/20/in-defense-of-your-er-nai-by-the-male-ego/#comment-9782</link>
		<dc:creator>blue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 12:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what is the equivalent expression for women who have been cheated ...haha good question but hard to answer.
if s woman has been green capped, she is the "abandoned wife (qi fu)".Emm,we can call her man"Chen Shimei"
hope this will not get you confused:-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what is the equivalent expression for women who have been cheated &#8230;haha good question but hard to answer.<br />
if s woman has been green capped, she is the &#8220;abandoned wife (qi fu)&#8221;.Emm,we can call her man&#8221;Chen Shimei&#8221;<br />
hope this will not get you confused:-)</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren</title>
		<link>http://www.lostlaowai.com/blog/2008/04/20/in-defense-of-your-er-nai-by-the-male-ego/#comment-9743</link>
		<dc:creator>Lauren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 02:29:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi 里: Thanks for your comment. I didn't intend to be bitter. I think given the fact that so many Chinese marry for "practical" reasons that it's normal for affairs to happen - people look elsewhere for romantic love, and society basically accepts it, or at least looks the other way. I still tried to be humorous about it, but guess that didn't come through. 

And no, I am not planning to leave China, since there are a lot of things I like about it. My own faithful husband, for one. As a foreigner, though, sometimes one needs to rant about the differences one sees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi 里: Thanks for your comment. I didn&#8217;t intend to be bitter. I think given the fact that so many Chinese marry for &#8220;practical&#8221; reasons that it&#8217;s normal for affairs to happen - people look elsewhere for romantic love, and society basically accepts it, or at least looks the other way. I still tried to be humorous about it, but guess that didn&#8217;t come through. </p>
<p>And no, I am not planning to leave China, since there are a lot of things I like about it. My own faithful husband, for one. As a foreigner, though, sometimes one needs to rant about the differences one sees.</p>
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		<title>By: 里</title>
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		<dc:creator>里</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 14:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, why so bitter? Maybe you can manyfacture enough indignation to state that once you leave China, you'll never go back there, either. You will leave such an amoral place, right?

BTW, if all Chinese you know have such marriage, that says more about the people you attract - and you - than China. Just guess since I probably know China quite well, maybe moreso than you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, why so bitter? Maybe you can manyfacture enough indignation to state that once you leave China, you&#8217;ll never go back there, either. You will leave such an amoral place, right?</p>
<p>BTW, if all Chinese you know have such marriage, that says more about the people you attract - and you - than China. Just guess since I probably know China quite well, maybe moreso than you?</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lauren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 13:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi all, thanks for the comments. Now that you mention it, Ben and Ryan, you're right, green caps are only for men, aren't they? My apology for the oversight. But in that case, my next question is, what is the equivalent expression for women who have been cheated on? If there is none, that could add weight to Tam's observation that "it's not being unfaithful" for a man to have a mistress.

And thankfully, this post comes not from some traumatic personal experience, but just from being bothered/fascinated by the ernai phenomenon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi all, thanks for the comments. Now that you mention it, Ben and Ryan, you&#8217;re right, green caps are only for men, aren&#8217;t they? My apology for the oversight. But in that case, my next question is, what is the equivalent expression for women who have been cheated on? If there is none, that could add weight to Tam&#8217;s observation that &#8220;it&#8217;s not being unfaithful&#8221; for a man to have a mistress.</p>
<p>And thankfully, this post comes not from some traumatic personal experience, but just from being bothered/fascinated by the ernai phenomenon.</p>
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		<title>By: Tam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 05:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lauren... nice to see your post, with it's different angle. A 30+ year old Chinese male friend told me every guy he knows has one, but that it's not being unfaithful. I have also been introduced to a married Chinese female friend's "qing ren", who is apparently richer and more endowed with "wen hua" than her husband. I felt kind of odd meeting her husband after that... but assume, on balance, he's also got his "er nai".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lauren&#8230; nice to see your post, with it&#8217;s different angle. A 30+ year old Chinese male friend told me every guy he knows has one, but that it&#8217;s not being unfaithful. I have also been introduced to a married Chinese female friend&#8217;s &#8220;qing ren&#8221;, who is apparently richer and more endowed with &#8220;wen hua&#8221; than her husband. I felt kind of odd meeting her husband after that&#8230; but assume, on balance, he&#8217;s also got his &#8220;er nai&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 14:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben's right, but cool post. What was the inspiration? Nothing too personal I hope. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben&#8217;s right, but cool post. What was the inspiration? Nothing too personal I hope. <img src='http://www.lostlaowai.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Ben</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:25:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You do realize that “worn the green cap” is the situation when a man's wife is having extracurricular activity, not when a man having one ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You do realize that “worn the green cap” is the situation when a man&#8217;s wife is having extracurricular activity, not when a man having one ?</p>
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